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Posted: Sun Nov 12th, 2006 03:12 pm |
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Does anyone have a source from which I can purchase a blanket for my 80 gallon water heater? All I can find at the local home centers and online are for 60 gallon heaters. I would appreciate the help!
Steve
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Posted: Tue Nov 14th, 2006 02:39 pm |
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Bump.
Come on guys. This should be an easy one for you folks. Can anybody help? Thanks again!!
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Posted: Tue Nov 14th, 2006 04:36 pm |
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Hello: I used to know where to get them, but that vendor is gone. Making your own is always a possibility. Finding something nice for a final wrap would make it a better job than using only fiberglass batts. Then there is the itch factor... If the tank is well insulated to begin with, a blanket might not show much savings.
At least as important is putting good insulation on the pipes and fittings like the relief valve. Also, demand controls on any recirc line will have noticeable water and energy benefits.
Not quite the answer you were looking for, but maybe of some use? 
Yours, Larry
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Posted: Sun Aug 19th, 2007 11:23 pm |
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Still looking for an 80 gallon tank heater. I'd sure appreciate the help!!
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Posted: Mon Aug 20th, 2007 03:10 am |
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Hello: Hopefully I'm a little quicker this time  I'm not sure what you mean by "80 gallon tank heater". Are you talking electric, gas or ? All the manufacturers make electrics. In gas, they make 75 gallon heaters...
Yours, Larry
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Posted: Fri Nov 16th, 2007 09:07 pm |
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| http://www.txenergysavers-shop.com offers 80 gallon and custom size jackets. We are the only makers of this product. We make it out of a radiant barrier product that carries an R-14.5 value and sells for $69.
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Posted: Mon Nov 19th, 2007 12:18 am |
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Hello: There's a publication called "Energy Design Update" http://www.aspenpubs.com/energy/lpext.dll?f=templates&fn=main-h.htm which has given objective advice and info about all sorts of energy related things for decades. I've come to trust their words. Radiant barriers have had all sorts of inflated claims made in the past about their performance, so I'm skeptical of "R 14.5". If there is testing info from a good lab, following established protocall, I'd like to see it 
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Posted: Mon Nov 19th, 2007 03:23 am |
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http://www.prodexsa.com/fsecreport.htm
Here you go. This info was posted on my links page. It was a study performed by florida solar energy center and Sponsored by Florida Power and Light Company and the U.S. Department of Energy.
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Posted: Mon Nov 19th, 2007 06:47 pm |
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This had nothing to do with water heaters. Aren't you comparing apples and oranges?
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Posted: Mon Nov 19th, 2007 07:39 pm |
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| You asked about the radiant barrier that I used in regards to its R value being certified and tested. What you wrote was, "I'm skeptical of "R 14.5". If there is testing info from a good lab, following established protocol" Thats the information that I provided. The efficiency of the radiant barrier is in direct correlation to the energy savings, No matter what the use is for. The way a water heater jacket works is the same principle as when applied to your attic. Blocking heat form entering your attic is the same as blocking heat from escaping from your water heater. The info provided was from an independent test lab sponsored by the department of energy. Cant get anymore proof than that.
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Posted: Thu Nov 29th, 2007 05:22 am |
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Hello: Hopefully I'm a little quicker this time I'm not sure what you mean by "80 gallon tank heater". Are you talking electric, gas or ? All the manufacturers make electrics. In gas, they make 75 gallon heaters...
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Posted: Thu Nov 29th, 2007 06:54 am |
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| His original request was for a 80 gallon water heater blanket/jacket. Later was shortened to 80 gallon tank heater.
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Posted: Thu Nov 29th, 2007 06:57 am |
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I make the Water heater blankets using an R-14.5 material that is Foil/Foam/Foil.
http://www.txenergysavers-shop.com
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Posted: Fri Nov 30th, 2007 06:37 pm |
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Hello: Just got the most recent Energy Design Update and interestingly, it addresses my concerns with R-value claims and radiant barriers. I'll exerpt various parts of the article: "Twenty-eight years after the Federal R-value Rule becamee the law of the land, US builders continue to be victimized by R-value scam artists. The latest hustlers reaching into the pockets of naive builders are the marketers of a thin plastic blanket called Prodex." ... "As it turns out, the claim that Prodex has an R-value of 14.5 is based on an assembly test, not a material test - that is, a test of a ceiling assembly or wall assembly mock-up containing many materials, only one of which is Prodex." ... "Although sophisticated builders may shrug at marketing hype based on obvious exaggerations, it's clear from a survey of questions popping up on contractors' Web forums that naive builders are still regularly duped by such pitches."
I'll say again, Energy Design Update has been around a long time. It is unbiased, unless one considers protecting the public a bias. It is published by Aspen Publishers, 76 Ninth Ave., New York NY 10011 http://www.aspenpublishers.com
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Posted: Fri Nov 30th, 2007 07:54 pm |
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Again Larry, I provided you with a working link to the independent test performed by the Florida Solar Energy Center and Sponsored by Florida Power and Light Company and the U.S. Department of Energy. Please feel free to send me the article. Your link took me to their home page but when I searched Prodex......Nothing.
An Expert from the report: "prodex has been developed since the writing of these reports and with its ΒΌ inch polyethylene foam core sandwiched between two radiant barriers, it is infinitely more efficient than the single aluminum barriers that were tested!"
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Posted: Fri Dec 28th, 2007 08:54 pm |
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Another take on the radiant barrier water heater jacket issue. I learned about these articles from Dan Holohan's newsletter (he runs http://www.heatinghelp.com, for steam-heating and radiant-heating issues):
http://healthyheating.com/Page%2055/Page_55_o_bldg_sys.htm
They're not talking about water heater jackets, but neither did the Florida study. The crux of the articles is that the radiant barrier doesn't contribute much to insulating, that when used alone, it is inferior to conventional materials and that when combined with them, the bulk of the insulating is done by the conventional materials.
Randy Schuyler
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Posted: Wed Jan 2nd, 2008 02:39 am |
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What it "boils" down to is the materials ability to resist heat loss or gain....R value. This holds true if applied in the attic, Exterior walls, Water Heaters, Sub-floors, etc. The biggest difference is the material that I use. I do not use the cheap foil/bubble/foil or the foil fiberglass/foil. I use foil/foam/foil. Think of it this way, The little foam coolers. Designed to do the exact opposite but same theory. When you got your 6 pack chillin, feel the exterior of your cooler. You will find it unaffected by the Ice inside the cooler. Its not cold on the outside right? Now with the similar higher quality type material place between two 97% pure aluminum sheets, This will Reflect the cold out but also reflect the heat back into your water heater. Thats the best that I can argue the case of water heater Jackets.
To date, We have sold our product in 23 states and continue to fill orders daily. I have yet have one returned and found a few people lately trying to market a lesser material product. I have yet to see a copy using the same high quality materials. One last plug...If it came from Texas Energy Savers, Its the best quality on the market. Thank you.
Jeremy
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Posted: Thu Jan 24th, 2008 05:14 pm |
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Oh so close...I have a 75-gallon tank and have not been able to find a wrap that fits. If one doesn't exist, what's the best way to make my own blanket?
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Posted: Thu Jan 24th, 2008 07:06 pm |
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You can Overlap the excess to fit your tank as long as your Water Heaters Measures: Diameter: 26"/Height: 62"/ Circumference: 82" or less. The Product is actually 66" High and 87" wide to accomidate several different brand sizes as well as the spacer strips that come in the kit. If this doesnt work for you, Send me your Demensions and I will custom make one for you and email the cost to you.
jdreynolds@txenergysavers.com
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